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Is it me, or does 98.7% of hentai media plot-less, cliche, shallow, and empty?
Alrighty, so I've stumbled upon the wonderful world of hentai just a few months ago. My slightly sick-minded friends told me to go and read this manga (forgot the title) and I did. Apparently my virgin mind could not handle the explicit scenes back then, and I nearly died from disgust. But I matured and decided to search for some more hentai, out of curiosity.

And I was slapped with cliche and plot-less results.

Hentai, Yuri, Yaoi, porn, or any type of sexual media doesn't faze or disgust me at all anymore. In fact, it makes me laugh to think that some people find this stuff appealing or even sexy. To me, it seems like a bunch of women (or men) making complete and utter fools of themselves as they announce their title as a free sex slave you can masturbate to or screw anytime you want. To me, it's just dishonorable to yourself, your reputation, and your psyche. (I'm a spiritual Confucius monk. Don't ask.)

Okay, this is beside the point...

Anyways, what I was trying to say was that it seems that there are so many hentai, manga and anime that are completely pointless. I mean, I know the main genre is sex and all, but can you at least add a bit of... growing intensity and emotion? I read this manga that was pure forty pages of sex scenes without any development! The woman in the story (an adolescent high-school girl) just asked her male classmate to go over and rub her breasts. And that ignited the sex. Really? You randomly rub your classmate's breasts and then start having sex in the nurse's office?

And this pisses me off the most. While she's riding him, she moans out "I LOVE YOU [insert name here]-kun!! AHH!!! *extreme orgasm*"

And he simply replies "I LOVE YOU TOO [insert name here]-chan!!! UGH!!!!! *extreme orgasm*"

*irritated sigh*

I hate it when people always mistaken lust for love. Those two do not love each other! They may love each other's bulging/soaking wet genitalia at that moment, but when they put on their school clothes after that escapade, nothing is there between them. It's emptiness. It's like eating a delicious chocolate cake with loads of sweet icing with no actual cake inside.

Most of the hentai are cliche, have no plots, and are simply... exaggerated. Nobody would have a vibrating dildo in their vagina during a test. Nobody would touch themselves while their teachers are giving history lectures.

And the sex is always lustful and empty. I know hentai is abou sex, but can it have a little meaning or connection sometimes? There is no love or gentleness, just hardcore adrenaline and pathetic lust. (not to mention, some of the sex is between pubescent girls and horny forty year olds. and sometimes it's even between a mother and her son. REALLY? YOU WOULD BE AS CRUEL AND AS DUMB AND AS ABUSIVE AS A MOTHER TO MAKE YOUR OWN SON- YOUR FLESH AND BLOOD, START LICKING INSIDE OF YOU?!!!! NO WAY!!!!)

...

for the record, I'd rather have sex the old-fashioned way: gently, tender, and WITH SOME FREAKING EMOTION LIKE, I DUNNO- ACTUAL LOVE AND DEVOTION TO YOUR PARTNER!!!!

*panting like a donkey in a desert*

And you do NOT NEED TO HAVE SEX TO TIE YOUR BOND OF LOVE WITH YOUR PARTNER! HELL, I'D PREFER NO SEX AT ALL AND JUST PURE SPIRITUAL, EMOTIONAL, AND MENTAL CONNECTION! IT'S MORE HEARTFELT AND LOVING THAN BANGING A BRICK WALL THEY HAVE NO LOVE FOR... WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT MOST OF THE HENTAI CHARACTERS DO!!

............................


Whew. What a speech. Anyways, answer below. Cheerios!
woah, uhh lol furgot the question *scrolls back up*ok ^_^ i see where you get that feeling of a pointless plot, i guess its more of a stright-up 99% now. the main aspect of hentai, or overall porn (though i'd rather use the word eroticas) was, and still is, the sex and other vulgar acts; cant blame the creators for that. and recently (i'm just taking a guess on this since i don't watch it at all) they've been throwing some, if any bit of, story into it as to make it less, sex *fap* sex *fap* ">.> but they haven't given any strong thought of how they would lead the characters into sex and such, making the whole story, as you said bfore, plot-less, cliche, shallow, and empty.
So overall: yea i agree with you

p.s.
lol still think'n that u should've just said 99% x3
Atheists, have you heard this story that will change your life?
This is a TRUE story.

There was this musician in the 60s or 80s who was a hardcore atheist. Then one day the plane he was on almost crashed. He was sure he was going to die. It was then that a Bible slid underneath his chair and it happened to open up to the verse that said "the truth will set you free."

The musician prayed and asked to be spared. The plane landed safely and he went on to become a famous Christian rock singer. He used to sing about sex, drugs and rock and roll but now he sings about Jesus.

I can't remember his name, but I heard this from a friend at church.

What do you think of this miracle?
I think it's totally made up, just like the story about the atheist professor who drops the chalk.
R&P: Can you give me feedback on these ideas for a rock opera?
I'm currently writing a rock opera about a boy named Johnny who has an alternate personality named Astra that he can only be while crossdressing. He grows up to be a rock star who falls into a life of sex and drugs, and dies at the end. I've been writing a new song called "The Fallen Birds" (the name of the fictional band in the story) and the song takes place in 6 parts, each part sounding at least somewhat slightly different from the previous part (sort of like "Jesus of Suburbia" and "Homecoming" by Green Day or "Land" by Patti Smith). The song takes a chunk out of the beginning of the story about when Johnny leaves home with his band to find fame and fortune in The Land of "I Don't Know." It also explores the feelings of disconnection, loneliness and belonging that are the main focus of the album.

I'll explain each part of the song, what it's about and it's sound. Keep in mind that the sound does not fit into each genre perfectly since the song is overall a Power/Glam Punk song. Each section has an instrumental transition from one part to the next.

-Part 1: Handcrafted. (Soft Rock)
This part is about how Johnny dislikes the life of Christianity being pushed on him as a guy. He hates confirmation, and his hateful priest (based off my own guyhood priest) is only further disconnecting him from reality in the attempt to bring him closer to it. Johnny wants to break out of this life, but doesn't know how. He tries to find connection in reading philosophy books (Nietzsche, LaVey and Crowley to be specific) that he stole. He feels that this life is not his, and has really just been "handcrated" by his parents.

-Part 2: They Were Never Really There (Power Pop, Pop Punk)
Johnny goes back to find memories of his friends, but realizes that the friends he had were not really his friends at all. In fact, they're nowhere to be found, making Johnny wonder if they were ever really there to begin with. He feels lonely without any form of connection or sense of belonging, until he finds a band of misfit guyren just like him called "The Fallen Birds," which he joins as lead singer.

-Part 3: I'm Going Away (Blues-Rock, Folk Punk)
Johnny tells his mother that he is leaving with his band and that he'll return home one day. This deeply saddens her, but he tells her not to be sad but to be happy for him. The guitar solo in this part shares similarities to the harmonica in "Love Me Do" by The Beatles

-Part 4: At the End of the Road (Punk Rock in the verse and Folk Rock in the chorus)
This part of the song describes the road trip that the band takes on their way to The Land of "I Don't Know."

-Part 5: Beaten Up (A mix of Glam and Hardcore Punk)
This part of the song describes the band finding The Land of "I Don't Know" (referred to here as “Sodom and Gomorrah Town”). The city is like a giant playground to them, but it has its dangers since it is filled with insanity. They will use "Sodom and Gomorrah Town" as the place where they hope to find fame. Part of the song I wrote based off an experience I had with my best friend when we had a day out on the town and her boyfriend tried to beat me up.

-Part 6: To Be Set Free (Glam Punk)
Johnny and his alternate personality have a conversation with each other. They talk about Johnny's clincal depression and his temptations with cocaine. Johnny is starting to give in to Astra in a Jekyll and Hyde sort of way, but does not become Astra entirely until later in the album. Johnny can only be Astra when he is cross-dressing, and he only cross-dressed in private when no one else is around. However, Astra wants to live the same exciting life as him and doesn't want to be confined to when no one is around. So she asks him to be set free forever, to which he says "In time." Astra tells Johnny that she no longer believes in him, and since this is sung by the same person it appears as though the main character is starting to lose his mind. The song climaxes with with Astra and Johnny switching every line in the chorus, with the rest of The Fallen Birds shouting things in between them.

If you want, I can post the lyrics as a question for you to give better criticism.
Actually, that is pretty cool, I give you credit for being creative! I really like what I've read, good luck with it!
R&P: Can you give me feedback on these ideas for a rock opera?
I'm currently writing a rock opera about a boy named Johnny who has an alternate personality named Astra that he can only be while crossdressing. He grows up to be a rock star who falls into a life of sex and drugs, and dies at the end. I've been writing a new song called "The Fallen Birds" (the name of the fictional band in the story) and the song takes place in 6 parts, each part sounding at least somewhat slightly different from the previous part (sort of like "Jesus of Suburbia" and "Homecoming" by Green Day or "Land" by Patti Smith). The song takes a chunk out of the beginning of the story about when Johnny leaves home with his band to find fame and fortune in The Land of "I Don't Know." It also explores the feelings of disconnection, loneliness and belonging that are the main focus of the album.

I'll explain each part of the song, what it's about and it's sound. Keep in mind that the sound does not fit into each genre perfectly since the song is overall a Power/Glam Punk song. Each section has an instrumental transition from one part to the next.

-Part 1: Handcrafted. (Soft Rock)
This part is about how Johnny dislikes the life of Christianity being pushed on him as a guy. He hates confirmation, and his hateful priest (based off my own guyhood priest) is only further disconnecting him from reality in the attempt to bring him closer to it. Johnny wants to break out of this life, but doesn't know how. He tries to find connection in reading philosophy books (Nietzsche, LaVey and Crowley to be specific) that he stole. He feels that this life is not his, and has really just been "handcrated" by his parents.

-Part 2: They Were Never Really There (Power Pop, Pop Punk)
Johnny goes back to find memories of his friends, but realizes that the friends he had were not really his friends at all. In fact, they're nowhere to be found, making Johnny wonder if they were ever really there to begin with. He feels lonely without any form of connection or sense of belonging, until he finds a band of misfit guyren just like him called "The Fallen Birds," which he joins as lead singer. The guitar solo in this part is similar to the harmonica in the song "Love Me Do" by The Beatles as a reference to the song "Shooting Star," in which the character (also named Johnny) hears the song "Love Me Do" and is inspired to start a band.

-Part 3: I'm Going Away (Blues-Rock, Folk Punk)
Johnny tells his mother that he is leaving with his band and that he'll return home one day. This deeply saddens her, but he tells her not to be sad but to be happy for him.

-Part 4: At the End of the Road (Punk Rock in the verse and Folk Rock in the chorus)
This part of the song describes the road trip that the band takes on their way to The Land of "I Don't Know."

-Part 5: Beaten Up (A mix of Glam and Hardcore Punk)
This part of the song describes the band finding The Land of "I Don't Know" (referred to here as “Sodom and Gomorrah Town”). The city is like a giant playground to them, but it has its dangers since it is filled with insanity. They will use "Sodom and Gomorrah Town" as the place where they hope to find fame. Part of the song I wrote based off an experience I had with my best friend when we had a day out on the town and her boyfriend tried to beat me up.

-Part 6: To Be Set Free (Glam Punk)
Johnny and his alternate personality have a conversation with each other. They talk about Johnny's clincal depression and his temptations with cocaine. Johnny is starting to give in to Astra in a Jekyll and Hyde sort of way, but does not become Astra entirely until later in the album. Johnny can only be Astra when he is cross-dressing, and he only cross-dressed in private when no one else is around. However, Astra wants to live the same exciting life as him and doesn't want to be confined to when no one is around. So she asks him to be set free forever, to which he says "In time." Astra tells Johnny that she no longer believes in him, and since this is sung by the same person it appears as though the main character is starting to lose his mind. The song climaxes with with Astra and Johnny switching every line in the chorus, with the rest of The Fallen Birds shouting things in between them.

And before anyone asks... Yes, this is a repost. I would just like to get some MORE feedback.
I like it. It kind of reminds me of The Wall by Pink Floyd, in the fact that its about a Rock Star who goes crazy. It's a good concept, maybe add on some more parts, like an ending where he gets forced into a mental institution.

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